The Red Review Presents the Municipal Socialist Alliance — Adam Golding

All the people who work on The Red Review live and work on stolen Indigenous lands across Turtle Island. There can be no reconciliation without restitution, which includes Land Back, RCMP off Indigenous land, and seizing the assets of the major resource corporations and returning them to the commons.

Join us this month for a new series, where Emily and Daniel introduce listeners to the Municipal Socialist Alliance (MSA) candidates running for mayor, city councillor, and school board trustee throughout Ontario!

Up first is Adam Golding, the MSA candidate for city councillor in Toronto Ward 11 University-Rosedale.

Candidate Links:
Adam Golding Substack

Community Organizations:
Movement Defence Committee
Community Justice Collective
Seeds of Hope

Videos and Articles:
This Time in History — 2022 Virtual Toronto Mayoral Debate

Adam's Bio:

Adam Golding was born in Toronto, raised in Barrie, Ontario and has lived in University-Rosedale for 20 years where he is currently the MSA candidate in Ward 11. Adam teaches piano from his home in Kensington Market -- you may have seen the posters for "Anarchist Piano Lessons". At U of Toronto, he studied Philosophy, Mathematics, Cognitive Science, Artificial Intelligence, Linguistics, Psychology and Computer Science, and got heavily involved in student politics. Adam focused on municipal politics when Mayor John Tory sued Khaleel Seivwright for erecting tiny shelters to save lives amid a state of emergency that Tory himself declared. He witnessed mass evictions and police violence at encampments last summer, where he was physically harmed and arrested along with dozens of others. That’s when TorCH: The Toronto Coalition for Housing, was formed. Following these events, Adam Golding worked on voter ID and fundraising for NDP campaigns, and joined the Socialist Alliance launched by leftists who are fed up with the status-quo AND fed up with the status-quo opposition to the status-quo.

Transcript

Emily Steers 
For those of you who are new to The Red Review, welcome and thank you for joining us! My name is Emily. I use she/her pronouns, and I'm coming to you from the unceded territories of the Neutral, Anishinaabe, and Haudenosaunee peoples known as Guelph, Ontario.

Daniel Tarade 
Hi, comrades. My name is Daniel, and I use he/him pronouns. And I'm coming to you from Tkaronto, the traditional territory of the Haudenosaunee, the Anishinaabeg, the Chippewa, the Mississaugas of the Credit, and the Huron Wendat. All people in Socialist Action — this is a Socialist Actionpodcast — we all live and work on stolen Indigenous land from across Turtle Island, so we echo the call for land back and for Indigenous self-determination. We declare that there can be no reconciliation without restitution, and that includes seizing the assets of the major resource corporations and returning them to the commons.

Emily Steers 
Hello everyone, and welcome to the first of a series of interviews with our candidates for the Municipal Socialist Alliance. For those of you who don't know, the Municipal Socialist Alliance is a new organization formed by revolutionary socialists, anti-poverty organizers, and disability justice organizers as an electoral alliance. Our primary goal remains radical transformation of society rather than electoral success, but in running an electoral campaign, we seek to build up our community-based power in order to tear down oppressive systems and institutions and replace the status quo corporate domination with a government run by and for the working class and the oppressed. We do not sacrifice the basic principles of liberation and justice for all in order to win elections. We participate in elections to challenge entrenched power and to reorient discussion towards the fundamental societal transformation needed for the masses to live comfortably and in harmony with our neighbors and nature. 

Daniel Tarade 
The Municipal Socialist Alliance does not tolerate xenophobia, racism, sexism, and gender-based violence, homophobia, biphobia, queer phobia, polyphobia, transphobia, ageism, ableism, Islamophobia, antisemitism, or classism. The Municipal Socialist Alliance supports Indigenous land back and Indigenous self-determination, disbanding the police and carceral institutions, free public transit, expansion of public services, and immediate action on climate change. The Municipal Socialist Alliance seeks to dismantle the systems of capitalism, imperialism, colonialism, heteronormative patriarchy, and white supremacy.

Emily Steers 
The five pillars of the Municipal Socialist Alliance electoral campaign are direct democracy, public education, direct action, mutual aid, program and policy. You can find out more at socialistalliance.ca.

Daniel Tarade 
Our first person that we will be interviewing, it is the Municipal Socialist Alliance candidate for University-Rosedale in Toronto Ward 11, Adam Golding. Adam Golding was born in Toronto, raised in Barrie, Ontario, and has lived in University-Rosedale for 20 years, where he is currently the Municipal Socialist Alliance candidate for city councilor. Adam teaches piano from his home in Kensington Market. You may have seen the posters for 'anarchist piano lessons' around the city of Toronto. At the University of Toronto, Adam studied philosophy, mathematics, cognitive science, artificial intelligence, linguistics, psychology, and computer science and got heavily involved with student politics. Adam focused on municipal politics when Mayor John Tory sued Khaleel seivwright for erecting tiny shelters to save lives amid a state of emergency that Tory himself declared. He witnessed mass evictions and police violence of encampments last summer, where he was physically harmed and arrested with dozens of others. That's when TorCH, the Toronto Coalition for Housing, was formed. Following these events, Adam Golding worked on voter ID and fundraising for NDP campaigns and joined the Socialist Alliance launched by leftists who are fed up with the status quo and fed up with the status quo opposition to the status quo. I always liked that turn of phrase. I think that's quite good. Welcome, Adam.

Adam Golding 
Thanks for having me, everyone. There's one thing that was cut from that bio that's very relevant because yesterday, I was just screening films about Rochdale College at film cafe in Kensington Market. Socialist Tuesdays, three to six every Tuesday. I'm going to do more Rochdale films next week. The reason that's part of my bio is my mother lived in Rochdale, which is part of how I got my radical politics. I grew up raised by a former Rochdalian in Barrie.

Emily Steers  
For those who don't know, do you want to share a little bit about what is Rochdale?

Adam Golding 
You can call it a hippie flophouse. The entire building was raided in 1975. Bloor and Huron, and it lasted from '67 or '68 until then, and it was sort of a campus co-op experiment. The bookkeeping was very creative. They didn't actually pay their bills until about 10 years ago. Yeah, and it's not often that the police raid an entire building of students. Well and other people. Of course they were all learning something. They had alternative very, very, very alternative education there, and it happened after Yorkville was gentrified by force. The cops kicked all the hippies out of Yorkville physically, and they all went into Rochdale, which had recently taken the locks off of its doors in some kind of a radical open policy. So they basically had squatters for almost a decade in this building, and my mother lived there. And they were all very, very radical people of the counterculture. You can come see movies about it tomorrow, Tuesday afternoon, about the crazy place my mom used to live in before I got so radical.

Emily Steers  
As it says in your bio, you got into municipal level politics in the aftermath of last year's encampment evictions, which I believe we talked about on the podcast, and we'll put a link to some information about that for anyone who's hasn't heard about that before. What inspired you to kind of run for this role out of that, and what are you hoping to get out of this opportunity to run?

Adam Golding    
The inspiration did actually come a little bit before the evictions, I mean, the mass evictions. There were evictions happening. I already knew Tory had lifted an eviction ban. I think there were two of those lifted, I just remember being pissed off about them, then I started paying much more close attention. And with the Khaleel thing. That happened before the evictions. He basically banned Khaleel from saving anyone's life, which is what he was doing. And that was really soul destroying for the city. And I immediately picked up on that as a logician and a teacher. And I thought like, What are you teaching children, for instance. You're telling them that you will be punished for saving a life. That is incredibly toxic and corrosive to our community. And not only that, but he was speaking gobbly gook about it. He was speaking logical nonsense, let's say, when he was saying that, Oh, those shelters are not safe. Well not safe compared to what? What they're not safe for is the city's insurance premiums. That's what they're actually talking about. If there's a tiny shelter, fire, those insurance premiums go up. They don't pay anything if you die from exposure, they might not even know that you died from exposure. There's a lot of homeless people that went "missing" this year. Like, the deaths have doubled. Well, there's also people going missing, you know. Gru was just tweeting about that. And anyway, the deaths doubled in the aftermath of him banning Khaleel from saving lives. That's when I started paying attention. Like I was paying attention to politics. I paid attention to politics more after Trump won, but then specifically Toronto, I'm like, Okay, I've learned my general stuff. Because I was trying to learn everything in like a different context and then see if I can apply it locally. Sort of abstract away from the particulars where I personally live to study general political theory, philosophy, math, yada yada yada history, and then I was like, Okay, now I gotta, like, you know, bring it home, so to speak, but it's all that's happening locally. And the evictions were really reprehensible. We should mention that the socialist Alliance has three candidates who were arrested on the same day. Three of our candidates in the Socialist Alliance were all arrested on the same day, which is pretty unusual. Takes a lot to explain how strange things have gotten in our city that we're in that situation. It'd be strange enough if a political group had three candidates who were arrested at all, let alone on the same day. That's the kind of city we live in right now. I created a playlist called #evictjohntory on YouTube, which includes every video I can find on YouTube of these encampment evictions, including some I recorded myself, including my "interview" with John Burnside, who is running for office and needs to be voted out. He was you know, on the ground managing all this crap. You know, he reported to Tracy Cook who reported to Chris Murray who reported to John Tory. That is the chain of command. They all need to go. Almost all the incumbents didn't vote for a judge to look into this afterwards. Only Perks and Matlow. And you know that day, there were a lot of injuries. Over 30 people were arrested just at Lamport 2. At Trinity Bellwoods, there were a few arrests and many injuries. I met a professor that day two minutes after the police had given her a concussion. That is not how I normally meet professors. They broke a girl's arm at the following clearing. You know, there is someone who ODed immediately afterwards after the eviction at Lamport 2 because you know they just lost all of their possessions and had this hugely traumatic experience. And of course people OD when they're not in their usual setting due to you know, like habituation. Study that in your psych 101 textbook folks. I could go on for hours and hours about all the horrific things that the police did and Star security did. I was also assaulted by Star security at the Trinity Bellwoods clearing, and that's just my personal experience. You know, I was one of the very fortunate people in that my charges were ultimately dropped. Some people are still facing charges. Seema Atri and the lawyers at MDC and CJC are really great, they swooped in. I didn't even know they existed, I just showed up because I knew something was wrong. And I didn't know that anybody would have my back. We still have to have the backs of people who are still facing charges. Running for office is one way we can increase the media pressure on the crown to drop those charges, actually.

Daniel Tarade    
That's a lot of the context for what brought you to the Municipal Socialist Alliance. And so let's talk a little bit more about the Toronto Housing Coalition, which was formed in the aftermath of all these encampment evictions. It had a slogan if I recall correctly — Stop, Drop, and Roll. Stop the evictions, drop the charges, roll out the housing. Is that correct? So talk about how that came together and what pressure you were immediately able to place on the city and then also where the organizing and the energy needs to go going forward. Because obviously we haven't won yet. People are still being evicted from the parks in Toronto, and people still don't have access to reliable affordable shelter.

Adam Golding    
Yeah, well, the rolling of the housing is the hardest part, right? That comes probably from policy change, which is why it's not just a media pressure for even just the purposes of that campaign, to get people running, is that you need actually different policies. One of those policies is not as specific but like the general policy of not having the police brutalize homeless people. That would be a great just general personal policy that you know, the mayor could have, our counselors could have. And even more generally, just not spending money on authoritarianism and being a control freak. When I was a kid, my mom from Rochdale didn't let me watch City Hall. She was afraid that I would become a politician. She was afraid that I would become a liar watching politicians. Well, that won't happen to me here. But you know, we've got this whole framework. They're not just liars. One thing she also said about politicians, when I was being raised by this woman, is that they're all control freaks. And I see it every day. I maybe would have figured it myself, but I wouldn't know exactly how to put it. They are control freaks everywhere. And those jobs attract control freaks. You have to elect people who aren't control freaks. Unfortunately most of them don't run. If anything, you need people who have maybe sort of traversed the spectrum and like been more or less a control freak a different times in their life or something like that. But just like you can be cramped in your muscular position. I think that, — well I mean, I think Tory sits like this, Hello, I want to control you all, but I'll be nice about it. That's that's the vibe I get from these folks. And you know, we have former cops managing the city. And I mentioned the other day, former cops manage cops, no one manages the cops. We shouldn't have former police in the city manager's office overseeing what the police are doing in something like the parks. Now the dropping the charges has actually been going okay, not everyone has had their charges dropped. So even the drop step is not completed. Now the stop. The mass evictions have stopped so far. The moment we look away, they would probably just do it again. They did get a lot of bad press. Tracy Cook probably is worried about her job at this point. You know, there's a petition to fire Tracy Cook. In the mayoral debate that This Time in History held — which is very good by the way, everyone, three-and-a-half hours of candidates really talking —they were not too kind to Tracy Cook because that question came up for the whole panel of like, What are we going to do about her? The mass ejections did not continue at Allan gardens. Various forces prevented that for now. And that's one of the parks that we should experiment handing over actually to Indigenous governance. I went to an event there were some speakers mentioned that they were long lost relatives, they were Indigenous people who met again at that park because they both became homeless and ended up there. And one thing Skylar Williams pointed out in the conference we did outside of Tory's condo, which you can see at torch.help, And he said this right before he was arrested actually for giving this speech, and an hour later, Richard Kitching was arrested as he talked to me. We walked down the street, arrested by undercovers — they were trying to get more charges just to legitimize themselves. He [Skylar Williams] was saying the encampments are, you know, almost 30% Indigenous. This is in the year of Truth and Reconciliation. So there's echoes of all of that. And there's even echoes of Rochdale because these mass raids, they're a tactic that they think is a normal thing to do — to do a mass raid of a bunch of radicals. You know what I couldn't believe that I learned the other day. That era when there was sort of anti-hippie forces with the cops and so on. And you know, there were "hippies are over running Yorkdale." One of those people was the former mayor Lamport known as Lampy, who Lamport Stadium was named after. They weren't just, you know, arresting 30 people anywhere. They're arresting 30 people in a place named after a former mayor who was anti-hippie.

Daniel Tarade   
You mentioned policy. So not only do we need a mass resistance to encampment evictions, not only do we need to stand up for our neighbors in tents, not only do we need to oppose police brutality, but that's a stopgap measure, obviously. That's what we do right now to save as many people as we can, to build up our communities as much as possible. What do you envision then? And what has the Municipal Socialist Alliance collectively been advancing as a policy solution or as a programmatic solution to the problem of houselessness, of lack of affordable shelter, and the other issues that abut up against the entire phenomenon of encampments.

Adam Golding  
So you can find this at platform.adamgolding.ca It also includes sheet music of the song evict John Tory, which is intended to market the hashtag, which is intended to market the playlist, which is intended to market the crime committed by our mayor. Some of it is symbolic. We mentioned Khaleel, how he was saving lives. We should apologize to him as a city and give him the key to the city and, you know, pay his legal costs. I hear he's working on shelter vehicles, which maybe aren't gonna be regulated the same way. But there are lots of people that I crossed paths who said, Oh, we can't build something because we'll get sued like Khaleel was — objectively a chilling effect on people trying to help. We have to actually ban mass evictions, not just not have them. And we have to have a shelter subsidy. We have to give people some kind of cash payment, which is universal. I understand that a universal benefit maybe can't be as much. But we can at least start with that. We can have a universal part and a selective part, perhaps, although the selected part has the overhead of administering a benefit system. But if somebody says, The largest universal benefit we can give people in Toronto is $0. They're incorrect. The largest universal benefit we can give people in Toronto is at least $1. Some people would say that it's $10. Some people say that it's $100. Whatever that number is, if you split it up and say, Well, here's the amount we can afford to make universal for shelter. Here's the part we can afford to make universal for food. It might not be enough to cover those costs because we might not be that wealthy as a city yet until we cut other things. But we can get started the idea that the number is non-zero. Once the number is non-zero, we can have a debate later about changing it. But we also need to index it to inflation. So basically, if we are really stingy and say, Look, we're going to start with a shelter subsidy, but like this month, we can only give everybody in the city 10 bucks. Well, that 10 bucks, it should change with inflation. If the cost of living doubles, the next year, it's 20 bucks. And to go beyond inflation, that's another conversation of increasing the benefit, but the increases and the decreases have to all be relative to inflation. This is actually what they do in Quebec, and they don't have this argument. I mean, that's more the provincial level. We can see how much we can afford municipally and say, Look, we can't afford to literally pay everyone's rent because the Feds would have to like turn this into a super socialist government and pass real basic income or something like that, but we can afford to make it not quite so painful. It's really about political possibility. You could say, Oh, you got to look at the budget. It's a matter what you can pass to be honest. And when it comes to basic needs, you can trim a little bit off of everything. Really the Fed should be involved kicking in because they can print money. Of course Tory is always complaining that Doug doesn't give him enough money. I've heard that even Doug thinks Tory will waste the money.

Emily Steers   
It's not like Tory has shown himself to be a smart allocator of funds.

Adam Golding  
I don't like what he's doing, yeah. Although probably not a lot of people believe that Doug Ford is smarter than John Tory, I can guarantee you that Doug Ford believes that Doug Ford is smarter than John Tory. 

Emily Steers  
Yep. 

Adam Golding 
Just last night, I was at Bampot, where I'm hoping to move my launch party tonight. Because I'm having a launch party, and I'm launching my campaign tonight after a long grueling pre-campaign, and the bar that I've been hosting at every Wednesday just went out of business yesterday. Crazy situation. And anyway, I was at Bampot last night talking about this because I might host it there — waiting for confirmation from the owner owner — a fellow that I showed the platform to, he just stood in silence and looked at the platform for a while, and he said nothing except for one thing. He mentioned the next point, which is the vacancy tax I have in this platform. And it's very relevant to this bar closing. And I'll explain that in a second. So the vacancy tax on my platform is more aggressive than the Socialist Alliance's platform. The Socialist Alliance has proposed a 30% vacancy tax. I propose doubling it every month until vacancies are near zero. If that causes a problem, you'd find out a particular month, but I think it would be good. And this person was just in silence. And they said nothing except "that one, that policy I like." I was like, well, that's the one that's even more aggressive than the Socialist Alliance. And it would have helped out because right now, that bar is probably going to sit empty, just like Hall and just like The Boat, where there also was a Wednesday open mic that was very near and dear to me. We are destroying our own culture over a numerical calculation. And there should be a rule against destroying our own culture on ourselves, because that's what we're doing when we shut down a bar over some dispute between like a manager and a rental person. And the musicians get caught in the crossfire and the community who benefits from those musicians. And these are unpaid musicians at open mics most of the time, doing really great work building community. It's no different than shutting down a church for months and months, months, because the church didn't pay rent. If anything, the city should step in and say okay, well, we're gonna do some of the managing, because we think this business could do more business. And we're going to get more money to the landlord that way and do less of us subsidizing your rent. Any rate, in the new platform, you'll see there's a bunch of stuff. There's an arts platform, which touches on some of these other things like paying musicians and whatnot. But we have to double vacancy tax monthly. It's a kind of gradual expropriation. And as far as expropriation, we have to explore how that overlaps with land back. Actually, that's something we need to have some public meetings about very soon. And in fact, that brings me to my next point. We need to have a daily public meeting about homelessness. Chris Glover has a great one that needs to be scaled up. He does a homelessness workgroup. He invites experts like from Seeds of Hope and these various groups that work on homelessness, and know what they are talking about. I've learned a lot there. And a meeting like that could be daily. It could be like the Covid briefings that we had. You could do it in-person, you could do it in front of City Hall with a big bonfire. You can say like everybody who's almost a day come here, and we'll see visually, this is the problem. You know, online is going to exclude some people. So you'd have to have like a camera and mic to actually include people. A lot of these zoom meetings don't actually include the homeless because they don't have access to a Zoom meeting. Or like Kensington had like a safety meeting that like the people who are least safe couldn't participate in because they don't actually have the internet in any meaningful way. The people who were concerned with the safety were the affluent people who were you know, the laptop class, this is during COVID. So this like safety meeting excluded the people who were at risk, and it made it like they were the threat. What else is new? So we need a daily public meeting that everybody can participate in. In addition to subsidies, we need rent control, like Jessica bell's Rent Stabilization Act. Actually, I'll be canvassing with her tomorrow. She has proposed something which I proposed myself when I was ranting and not really in politics, which is that rent control — and maybe it's obvious enough that many people have said this — that rent control should apply to the location, not the person. So here where I live right now, although our landlord is wonderful, if he did want to evict us, he would make money. New tenants would pay more. Even though we've done nothing wrong, we've been great tenants, and it's a perverse incentive to evict tenants who have done nothing wrong. So the rent should stay the same. The rent control should be unit specific. Incidentally, liquor license should be the other way around. Liquor licenses should be business specific because Fairland Funhouse in Kensington never happened because they were afraid that it was a sublease of Liquor donuts, they're afraid Liquor Doughnuts would go out of business and the new business would inherit the liquor license. And so they didn't want to give a liquor license to the location. They didn't care what the business was. They knew the liquor license didn't go to the business, they went to the spot. Now imagine if rent control was like that. It's kind of funny that liquor license and like Yeah, you keep your liquor license, but for a person living there, like no, you can't keep the old rent. Fucked up is what that's called. We need to build more mental health treatment facilities. Housing First is sort of a nice idea in a very vague sense, but housing first is a failed strategy in Toronto. And there's a lot of reasons. Partly it doesn't really mean housing first. There's some weird caveats on the program, where you have to be homeless for a certain time to qualify and this kind of thing. So some of it is the nitty gritty, but some of it is a very broadly, which I also heard from a counselor from Bradford that I spoke to on the phone many months ago. He said you have to build treatment facilities first. Because yeah, there are some people who just need housing and for those people, great, just give them the housing. So it is housing first for some people, but for some people it is treatment first and that they need basically some kind of 24/7 treatment facility that they can go to and stay there, sleep there, and also leave freely.

Emily Steers   
It sounds like what's needed is stability first. For some, people housing is what they need for stability. For some people, treatment is what they need for stability. But it's stability and support that people need. And that's the need we need to address.

Adam Golding 
That's really the way to phrase it, Emily. Yeah, if you give somebody who is having a really serious mental health time housing, they might actually ruin the housing and lose their housing. And this is what this counselor from Bradford was telling me that he'd seen happen on a smaller scale in Toronto. He felt that he made a mistake for 10 years of pushing just for housing and not pushing for the mental health treatment. He was ranting me like he wants people to learn from his mistake. So yeah, we have to build mental health treatment facilities. Basically de-institutionalisation has been a disaster. If anyone's not aware of that, we basically figured we could save money by kicking everyone out of the "asylums." So we have our open-air asylums in the street. I don't believe that the mentally ill should lose their freedoms unless they're violent or something like that. That's where the spirit came from, but here's the thing; this happens all the time with right libertarians, they say, We will give you your freedom as in we will give you fucking nothing. Because negative liberty is we won't interfere, positive liberty is we might actually help you by giving you resources.

Daniel Tarade  
Let's talk a little bit about your riding specifically. So University-Rosedale. That was Mike Layton's old riding. So the son of Jack Layton, city councilor, very popular, kind of the face of the so-called Progressive Caucus in Toronto is not rerunning again. So who are you running against? And what have you been finding locally, politically, in your riding happening during this campaign? 

Adam Golding 
Well, I don't particularly want to give them free advertising. You can look them all up on the city's website, but I can tell you some things about all of them. Anyone who has any chance against me is a parachute. For those of you who don't know what it is, it's someone who doesn't live here. It's an invasion of people trying to take over my home. This is where I've lived for 20 years. There is no one with any chance who actually lives here. I know because I have the voter's list and Toronto Star said the same thing. They don't live here. They're not your neighbors, they do not represent you. I am the only change candidate in this world. These other people are being parachuted in by various establishment groups who want to keep things the same. They want to keep their same friends, making the same money. Everybody on City Council is friends with each other, which is why they'll never hold each other accountable. You need a real change candidate in this ward. Don't vote for a parachute anywhere. 

Emily Steers  
Amen. Amen.

Daniel Tarade  
If you have now a minute and a half to speak directly to someone in the city. As we know, municipal elections have the lowest voter turnout. It's probably going to be considerably below 50% because even the last provincial election was below 50%. If somehow this podcast finds its way to someone who has never voted before in a municipal election, and they see nothing for them there. What do you say to them in one minute?

Adam Golding  
I beg of you, listen to the entire #evictjohntory playlist on YouTube. You might not have the energy to vote. You have the energy to sit at home on YouTube. Some of its traumatic. You can skip the long ones. Just watch the short ones. There's a lot of information there. If we could Clockwork Orange strap everyone down and show them that playlist, John Tory would lose in a heartbeat. And John, you better look for a new job. Oh, wait, you already have one at Rogers.

Emily Steers  
Thank you so so much, Adam, for your time and all the best with your platform. Check our podcast description for all of the information that Adam was sharing today. And please get out and vote. This is a really, really important municipal election. There are lots of amazing progressive candidates running. There are also lots of really scary right-wing candidates running, and a lot of establishment candidates running who just want to keep things the damn same. So get out there, get some change into city council. And again, Adam, thank you for all of your time and effort in this campaign and all the best.

Adam Golding  
Thank you, and I'll see you at adamgolding.ca